In this episode of Treatment Room Secrets with host Dani Marks, I explore how massage therapy can be understood through a modern neuroscience lens, moving away from simplistic explanations of pain toward a deeper understanding of its complexity—especially in chronic cases. I discuss how stress heightens nociception, the psychological impact of ongoing pain, and how posture can reflect layers of personal history rather than just mechanical alignment. The conversation highlights how more sophisticated models of pain and posture can expand what manual therapy offers, both conceptually and in practice.

I had the pleasure of joining Andrew Rosenstock on Touching Into Presence to talk about how my path weaves together neuroscience, bodywork, and a deep inquiry into what it means to touch, heal, and relate. We explored how my early fascination with human behavior led me to neuroscience, and how my later immersion into massage revealed dimensions of psychological and relational change that traditional models couldn’t fully explain. We also got into interoception, the role of C-tactile fibers in creating felt safety through human touch, and how neuroscience reshapes the way we understand trauma, posture, and therapeutic presence.

In this episode, I join Whitney Lowe and Til Luchau for a lively conversation about the intersection of neuroscience, trauma, and massage therapy. We explore the complex processes behind pain perception, the role of descending modulation, and how we can create lasting change through manual therapy—often in ways that go far beyond tissue effects.